Viyoddha

Discussion between J Krishnamurti and Dr David Bohm Is there an original source, a ground? A ground from which all this sprang: nature, man, the whole universe. Was it bound by time? Was it in itself complete order, and beyond which there is nothing more? Which is never touched by human thoughts or mind? The ground must be timeless, there should not be anything beyond it.  The universe is in absolute order. The very word 'cosmos' means order. Nature is in order. Unless man interferes with it, nature has its own order. ( Man is also part of nature, is part of order of nature, but ‘man made mind’ has created disorder in every thing it has created).  We can have order in ourselves, by careful observation, self-study, self-investigation, and understand the nature of disorder, and the very understanding, the very insight of it dispels that disorder. Fairly intelligent and knowledgeable and fairly cultured human beings, cultured in the sense civilized - he can, with a gr...